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              <text>Descriptions of Oral History Interview Tapes&#13;
Dorothy Bivens&#13;
-father's business - black - owned coal yard&#13;
-children's games and pet pig Timmy, city ordinance forbidding  in city livestock&#13;
-her girlfriends&#13;
-neighborhood and Mobile descriptions&#13;
-overcrowding in Mobile - soldiers everywhere&#13;
-deterioration of race relations as a result of war build-up&#13;
-segregation&#13;
&#13;
George Taylow&#13;
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-lived in Mobile after marriage&#13;
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-black apprenticeship and place in shipping, going to sea as a very young boy, father was a sailor&#13;
&#13;
Mrs. LeFlore&#13;
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-Mardi Gras (Joe Cain)&#13;
&#13;
Col. Lockett&#13;
-white middle-class neighborhood description&#13;
-neighbors knew each other because people walked instead of driving&#13;
-streetcars&#13;
-talks extensively of his wartime and Army career, service in the Pacific during World War II&#13;
-short interview - 30 minutes - one side only&#13;
&#13;
Frank Fields (no photo)&#13;
-description of pre-World War I black neighborhoods&#13;
-hard work for blacks, low pay&#13;
-mail carrier, highest pay available to blacks&#13;
-worked at Scottish Rite Temple&#13;
-segregation - Civil Rights&#13;
-member of the Knights of Pythias, a black fraternal organization&#13;
-joined Army towards the end of World War I, does not see action&#13;
-organized picnics in Africatown, every week, remembers seeing Cudjo Lewis&#13;
&#13;
&#13;
GROWING UP IN MOBILE; DEPRESSION AND WARTIME. 1929-1939&#13;
Oral History Interviews&#13;
Summer, 1983&#13;
&#13;
Walter Lee Allen&#13;
Date of birth: July 1, 1922&#13;
Date of Interview: June 22, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Reve Carlson&#13;
Assistants: Tom Oberding&#13;
                     Frank McCloskey&#13;
&#13;
Joaquin M. Holloway, Sr.&#13;
Date of Birth: January 27, 1908&#13;
Date of Interview: June 27, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Lalie Felis&#13;
Assistants: De Juan Kidd&#13;
                     Patricia Harrison&#13;
&#13;
Dorothy Steele Bivens&#13;
Date of Birth: November 23, 1925&#13;
Date of Interview: June 20, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: De Juan Kidd&#13;
Assistant: Joey Brackner&#13;
&#13;
Robert Hunter&#13;
Date of Birth: 1920&#13;
Date of Interview: June 25, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Frank McCloskey&#13;
Assistant: None &#13;
(Two tapes)&#13;
&#13;
Elizabeth Vickers Courtney&#13;
Date of Birth: February 2, 1930&#13;
Date of Interview: July 1, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Lalie Felis&#13;
Assistants: Sherrie Chavis&#13;
                    Rebecca Harrison&#13;
&#13;
Archbishop Oscar Lipscomb&#13;
Date of birth:&#13;
Date of Interview: July 14, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Frank McCloskey&#13;
Assistant: None&#13;
&#13;
Susan Randolph Crichton&#13;
Date of Birth: October 8, 1896&#13;
Date of Interview: June 23, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Reve Carlson&#13;
Assistant: Frank McCloskey&#13;
&#13;
Col. Herbert S. Lockett&#13;
Date of Birth: &#13;
Date of Interview: June 24, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: De Juan Kidd&#13;
Assistant: Joey Brackner&#13;
&#13;
Frank Fields&#13;
Date of Birth: August 26, 1900&#13;
Date of Interview: June 30, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Joey Brackner&#13;
Assistant: None&#13;
(Two tapes)&#13;
&#13;
Edith Eliza Thompson McClain&#13;
Date of Birth: January 6, 1904&#13;
Date of Interview: June 24, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Frank McCloskey&#13;
Assistant: None&#13;
(Two tapes)&#13;
&#13;
Ann Battle Hawkins&#13;
(Mrs. Donald A. Hawkins)&#13;
Date of Birth: August 27, 1912&#13;
Date of Interview: June 21, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Lalie Felis&#13;
Assistant: Sherry Chavis&#13;
(Two tapes)&#13;
&#13;
Elizabeth Barbour Pipes&#13;
(Mrs. R. Ford Pipes)&#13;
Date of Birth: January 30, 1918&#13;
Date of Interview: June 20, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Lalie Felis&#13;
Assistant: Sherry Chavis&#13;
&#13;
Mary Frances Young Plummer&#13;
Date of Birth: October, 1913&#13;
Date of Interview: June 21, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Reve Carlson&#13;
Assistants: Tom Oberding&#13;
                     Frank McCloskey&#13;
&#13;
Delores Jenkins Taylor&#13;
(Mrs. George O. Taylor)&#13;
Date of Birth:&#13;
Date of Interview: June 22, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Jeffrey Hunter&#13;
Assistant: Sherry Chavis&#13;
&#13;
George O. Taylor&#13;
Date of Birth: July 23, 1915&#13;
Date of Interview: June 22, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: De Juan Kidd&#13;
Assistant: Joey Brackner&#13;
&#13;
Arch R. Winter&#13;
Date of Birth: September 13, 1913&#13;
Date of Interview: June 23, 1983&#13;
Interviewer: Lalie Felis&#13;
Assistant: Sherry Chavis&#13;
&#13;
Patricia G. Harrison&#13;
Coordinator - Oral History Project&#13;
&#13;
Notes:&#13;
The general theme of the oral history interviews was "Growing Up in Mobile: Depression and Wartime, 1929-1949." Many of the questions pertained to the Depression or to World War II.  However, many of the persons interviewed were young adults during the Depression or World War II. Some of these interviews, therefore, are valuable in illustrating what it was like to grow up in Mobile during an earlier period.&#13;
The young people prepared a standard interview. They adapted this interview to fit the individual.&#13;
Two of the interviews - those of Elizabeth Vickers Courtney and Robert Hunter - pertain to growing up in Spring Hill . Robert Hunter also includes some information regarding Spring Hill College. He also discusses historic preservation in Mobile.&#13;
The interview with Mrs. Edith McClain contains information relating to black Episcopalians in the South. She also discusses black leadership in Mobile. She was the first black librarian with a degree in Mobile.&#13;
Mrs. Dorothy Bivens was interviewed in her office at Bishop State Junior College. A central air conditioner ran during the interview. The tape is audible. However, this tape is not as clear in portions as are most of the other tapes.&#13;
Walter Allen did not grow up in Mobile., He states that he grew up "out in the country". He was drafted into the army in 1942. Tom Oberding, the assistant, began interviewing Mr. Allen when the interview was underway. The Young Interviewees were not always able to change their prepared interviews when the subject did not fit the pattern. This is apparent in parts of this interview.&#13;
Most of the remaining interviews pertain to Mobile during the Depression or World War II. Many of the interviews are excellent and are historically valuable. &#13;
Mrs. Teach Beck LeFlore (Mrs. John L. LeFlore, Sr.) was interviewed during this project. Unfortunately the recorder malfunctioned or some other problem prevented this tape from being audible. Joey Brackner who assisted with the interview has included some notes relating to this interview.&#13;
The interviews were conducted during the summer of 1983.&#13;
Project Coordinator: Patricia G. Harrison&#13;
Research Assistants: Joey Brackner&#13;
                                      Sherry Chavis&#13;
                                      Frank McCloskey&#13;
Young people working on oral history project:&#13;
Reve Carlson, age 11, Leinkauf School&#13;
Lalie Felis, age 14, Daphne Jr. High School&#13;
Jeffrey Hunter, age 14, Palmer Pillans Middle School&#13;
De Juan Kidd, age 12, St. Mary's Middle School&#13;
Tommy Oberding, age 10, Aquinas Academy&#13;
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Jackson:	I’m a tell you something just about the impact of that book.  Um, there there are people, older people in their ‘70s ‘80s, who’ll go “You know, I I hadn’t thought about Live Oak Street and I read that book,’ and their just get real big, ‘And you know, it made think about when the Davis Avenue was paved up to that point. &#13;
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Jackson:	And they then just go on and on and their eyes roll back and get this look like the book took them somewhere they hadn’t been in awhile.  You know, it’s really, it’s it’s really interesting because I believe people of Mobile, black folks in Mobile like to tell the story.  It could be very guarded though. &#13;
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Horton:	…’business.”  And I said, “Well, how did they get away with it?” He said, “What they would do was they would go to the battle house and check in.” And so if someone asked about his whereabouts, they would say, “Oh, he’s at.”  “Well, I can prove I was at the battle house.”  But that’s not really where he was, he was on the other side of town at night.  And they and they put the white man put his children through college.  They made sure they made that was that was number one priority that if he had a child by a black woman, he always put his child through college.  That’s what they, that’s what they told me.  And they said, um, there was a saying back then, that the um, how did how did she put it, well, they was laughing about it, I mean they, this is what they told me.  Uh, they said that the uh, as for as the black women, uh, you know the white woman liked the black man because uh, they said that the white man makes love like a chicken, like a rooster.   I said, “What you mean by he make love like a rooster?”  They say he’s…  You ever seen a rooster?  You’re not familiar with chickens?&#13;
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Jackson:	I bet.  But there seems that are a lot of, when we talk about black Mobile there seems to be a lot of ‘isms’ around those types of issues.  And that are even still kinda prominent today. Um, and I wonder in your in  the capacity of collecting your information for ‘The Avenue’ in particular, even the school book, maybe uh, did that, did that issue come up? &#13;
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Horton:	Uh huh, yes.  I interviewed him um, you know, you know when he was living.  These people were living when I interviewed, you know when I… Well they had to be living.  But um, and I said, “Was Dave Patton’s secretary a white lady?”  He said, “No, she was..”  You know how some  people can be so light, you’ll think they’re white.  But she lived off Davis Avenue.  I forgot, he told me her name and I got it on tape somewhere.  But she was maybe a Creole or something like that.  But I did not, they were they were really telling me about themselves and um… Like Mr. Besteda’s family worked for white people, too.  And I asked him, “How did they feel, how did, did you ever go in…”  Just like you asked me the question did I ever go to work with him.  Mr.  Besteda was born in 1902.  And I was asking him did he go to work in one of those white homes with his mother.  And he said uh, on one occasion.  The Mossellander family, that’s a very prominent family here back then on Springhill Avenue and I said, “Was it alright for you being a little black boy to go in that house?”  And he said what he did was he went to the back through the back door and his grandmother would say, uh,  no his mother would say, “Now, Sam, you, you sit there you know at the kitchen table and just have a sit but don’t go through anything.  But I do recall a gentleman  in the “Melody Masters.”  That’s a black group.  You know you you you saw an Avenue book, “The Melody Masters”?&#13;
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Horton:	They uh, like one lady said, that the slaves um, there were some slaves living off Davis Avenue years ago and they would have a argument about uh, who’s master got the finest carriage.  You know, just little silly little things like that. But I don’t recall uh us, you know, in my interviewing them talking about um, you know, who was Creole.  Oh, oh, oh, I know on one occasion one lady said that if you’re a… they didn’t wanna socialize, “I’m a postman,” I’m a schoolteacher,” somehting like that.  They wouldn’t socialize with someone  who wasn’t of that caliber.  They did talk about how people did treat people who were not…&#13;
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Jackson:	And uh, ah, it’s seems to be a theme.  We keep coming back to this thing about class.  And very often like when we think about Civil Rights and everything we factor out inside the community difficulties and differences.  And my grandmother calls it mess. &#13;
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Horton:	Yes, that’s what it is.  It’s mess.  I think it’s misunderstanding.  But when you when you really get to talking to people ‘cause I was surprised too when I started doing “Avenue”.  I was really surprised at um, you know, when I called Dr. Goode.  I had no idea what type of person he was, I had no idea.  In fact, I didn’t know any of these people.  And I just picked up the phone and I thought he would be, and see that’s just my misunderstanding, I thought that he would be uppity or you know, something like that…&#13;
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Project: Compare and contrast wealthy upper-class housing of the 1930s with wealthy upper-class housing at the turn of the century.&#13;
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The Vickers House: built 1935-36, located at 29 Hillwood Road in Spring Hill, west of I-65. A modest two-story house, side-hall plan. Small one-bay porch front entrance, with brick stoop and steps and brick walkway leading up to pebbled half-circle driveway. A closed, private-looking house, with its screened-in porch in the southwest corner, (bottom floor) and, originally, a covered back porch off the kitchen (now walled-in and the kitchen expanded). Set in the middle of a huge lot, with a pebbled driveway offering two entrances to the front of the house, which is on a corner lot surrounded on the two street-sides by a white picket fence. Trees hide the house almost entirely from view from the road. &#13;
Children played in the yard, the ditch behind the lot, the neighbors' yards, or the woods (where houses now stand). This meant that the children stuck close to home, a safer environment than if they had lived downtown and played in the streets. &#13;
Ten-inch cypress boards side the exterior, red brick makes up the front stoop and steps, walkway, and stairwell leading outside from the southwest screened-in porch. The materials for the house came mostly from other houses being torn down at this time (1935). These "second-hand" materials were less expensive, but of high quality. The simple, rectangular design of the house, its modest size (the Vickers originally planned to add a wing on the north side eventually, but built a house over the Bay instead), and the second-hand materials used in its construction indicate the limitations set by the Depression, during which the general attitude, even among the wealthy, was one of caution and concern over the financial risk involved in the construction of a private home, especially since few people in the 1930s could afford to build, much less live in, a new house.&#13;
Hillwood was a new area of Spring Hill when the Vickers built their house in 1935 (theirs was the first home built in the area, not including the three "model homes" in Hillwood built in the 1920s before the Depression, which temporarily ended further development of homes in the area). Hillwood is and was an obviously wealthy suburban street, in the same neighborhood as the "restricted" Mobile County Club. White families, with black servants, have always been the rule in Hillwood. The houses on Hillwood are nearly all different, having been built at different times and through different architects in the years since 1935. &#13;
The interior of the house has hardwood floors and paneling (probably oak); a blue marble fireplace in the living room downstairs; indoor plumbing (two-and-a-half baths, 1 1/2 downstairs, one upstairs); a small kitchen with all modern convenience in the back of the house; electricity and a ceiling fan in the southwest screened-in porch; and a cellar-utility area for clothes-washer, servants' room. The house was probably heated through a combination of gas, electricity, and the fireplaces up- and downstairs. Fans and open windows cooled the house. Everything mentioned above in this paragraph was original to the house at the time it was built.&#13;
The roof of the house is a moderately steep gable-style, practical for Mobile's rainy climate. Window arrangements are not practical - the kitchen has the fewest (and the smallest) windows, yet it is the hottest room in the house. The Vickers made sure that the other rooms in the house had enough strategically-placed windows to insure a "nice view of the yard"; in other words, the practical purpose of windows, i.e. to provide light and air-circulation, were not considered as important by the Vickers as the "nice view" the windows could provide. Many trees shade the yard, but these are not very close to the house, which would be very uncomfortable without air conditioning. &#13;
The Vickers house has few details which would "date" it to the 1930s. Part of the reason for this is that the house was "made to order", its design reflecting the personal preferences of the Vickers when they built the house in 1935. Another reason it is difficult to "date" the house is that it was constructed of second-hand materials, from houses built years before 1935. For instance, the ten-inch wide cypress siding on the houses's exterior was more common in the 19th century than in the early twentieth century, during which time exterior siding was much narrower and consisted of non-organic shingles, asbestos, stucco, etc. (becomes typical of homes built in the inter-war period). &#13;
However, several details of the Vickers house indicate that it was built in the Depression year. These details include the fact that the house is much less" street-oriented" than houses built in earlier periods when people would sit on their front porches and visit with their neighbors while the children played in the street. The Vickers house, with its large back yard, its private, screened-in porch, and its location on the lot (set back from the street and hidden from view by trees, the lot surrounded by a white picket fence as a symbol of "private property") is an example of the growing trend in the inter-war years towards privacy, when people more or less cut themselves off from their neighbors by moving inside their houses and into their back yards. The small one-bay porch/ stoop front entrance of the Vickers house is not as open and welcoming as the large front porches of Victorian houses built at the turn of the century or bungalows built in the 1920s. &#13;
The Depression evidently caused a change in the general attitude towards money - people who had wealth in the 1930s were careful not to "show off" their wealth. The Vickers could have afforded to be much more extravagant in designing their house, but they kept it simple. The Vickers' rectangular-shaped "town house" has little or no decoration other than: dark green "false" shutters on windows at the front of the house; a wrought-iron handrail on the stairwell leading outside from the southwest screened-in porch; a sunburst window above the front door sill; a gas light/lamp at the end of the front brick walkway; a white picket fence around the street sides of the lot; and several flower beds and many different types of trees in the yard. Even inside the house everything is kept simple: wood paneling instead of wall paper; hardwood floors, with rugs in only a few rooms. The blue marble fireplace in the living room is perhaps the most decorative detail of the house. &#13;
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The Tissington House - built 1901, located at 1216 Government Street at Georgia Avenue, west of Broad Street but east of Ann Street, so it is extremely close to downtown and lies on the north side of Mobile's "main street" (Government). A very large house with an open, roomy front porch and second story balcony wrapping around the west side of the house from the front. Two-and-a-half stories, the Tissington house has numerous windows, balconies, dormers, and a large tower (turret). It was built on a central-hall plan. The house takes up most of the corner lot on which it was built. The front yard is somewhat larger than the backyard, and concrete steps lead from the front door/ porch to a wide concrete walkway, which empties onto a sidewalk surrounding the lot on its street sides (this sidewalk extends around the block and is typical of downtown Mobile, which has sidewalks in every area, residential and business). These sidewalks were important especially for the children of the Tissington house, since they lived on one of Mobile's busiest streets. The children probably played on the large porch or inside the house in bad weather, in the street or on the sidewalks otherwise. The Tissington house is so large it certainly offered the children enough room to play inside or to be alone if they wished. &#13;
The house has five- to seven-inch clapboard exterior siding and the roof is shingled, with decorated fascia boards. The jigsaw and the spindle were among the advancements in technology of the nineteenth century, and both were used to create this typical Victorian house, with its spindle-wood balustrade and jigsaw railing on the front porch and second-story balcony, and the Victorian-turned columns and wooden handcarved decorations on the tower, dormer, and front-porch roof. The house also features stained glass windows. The size and design of the house indicate a type of extravagance in which the wealthy homebuilder of the turn-of-the-century could indulge, whereas the wealthy homebuilder in the Depression era was more inhibited and careful with his money. &#13;
The Tissington house is one of several Victorian homes in the area of Georgia Avenue and Government Street. The families living in these houses were of the upper-middle/ wealthy class, and their racial background was white, their servants were probably black. One street over, north of the Georgia-Government area, is Caroline Avenue, which is lined with tiny low-income Victorian "shotgun" houses, also built near the turn-of-the-century, like the Tissington house. &#13;
The Tissington has three parlors downstairs; a kitchen in the back of the house (with a marble sink); indoor plumbing; electricity for fans; probably gas for heating as well as the fireplaces (the fire-place in one of the parlors is dark brown marble); hardwood floors covered with narrow-cut carpets; oak paneling and large-patterned wallpaper on the walls. A house this large certainly required several servants to help with its upkeep and the owner's image. &#13;
The Tissington is a pure Victorian house, like any other Victorian house built in California, Kansas, or Maine. It adapts to Mobile climate through its open spaces, high ceilings, steep-pitched roofs, and especially through its large porch and balconies. It has many windows, mostly placed wherever they would look best, some of them of stained/ leaded glass. This house might have been more comfortable without air-conditioning than would the Vickers house, which is smaller and not as well ventilated. &#13;
Many details "date" the Tissington house to the turn-of-the-century, including: stained/ leaded glass in windows; narrow-cut carpet on the floors; Victorian-turned columns on the porch; wooden handcarved designs on the tower (turret) and dormers; the decorated balustrade around the porch and balconies (jigsaw design on the railing, spindled balusters); detailed molding around the windows; many different sizes and shapes of windows. The tower itself, in addition to cupolas and turrets, were also common to the Victorian style of architecture represented in the Tissington house's design and construction.&#13;
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The houses of the 1930s were built in the Depression era, a time when people either did not have money or were very careful wit hit. Therefore, the houses built at the turn-of-the-century, a time when most people had fewer financial problems, would be fancier than houses built thirty years later. The people living in the Tissington house in the early 1900s could probably walk to shops and schools because they lived in town. But at the time the Vickers house was built (1935), Spring Hill was a suburb, "out in the country", and the children had to ride bikes to school and the Vickers had to drive into town to work or shop.&#13;
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The Mobile Public Library Study Grant: Growing Up in Mobile, Depression and Wartime&#13;
Evaluation of Rebecca's architectural project&#13;
Project: To compare and contrast the wealthy upper class housing of 1930 with the wealthy upper class housing of the turn of the century.&#13;
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The two houses selected by Rebecca were well chosen to illustrate the contrast in architectural development of the two periods. They also demonstrated the changes  in the suburban growth of their respective years. The drawings added much to the project. Not only were they well done but they brought out essential differences in the architectural elements. The written descriptions were detailed enough to bring out the purpose of the project, that of the effect of housing on a child growing up in those surroundings. It would have been helpful if Rebecca could have interviewed Mrs. Tissington as she did Mrs. Vickers and it was unfortunate that she could not go through the interior of the Tissington house to get an accurate picture of the plan, not because she did not try.&#13;
From the social standpoint the conclusions drawn were well stated. From the architectural standpoint it might have been interesting to have added a comment on the difference in craftsmanship evidenced in the details of the building since that is the point brought out by the drawings. Both Rebecca and her advisor, Jennifer, did a good job with the subject selected and carried out within the allotted time. They took many trips to the buildings, the photography was excellent and the drawings show much talent on the part of Rebecca.&#13;
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Butler:	I’m having to give some thought to that.  Actually when I was growing up, I didn’t notice it too much.  ‘Cause we all, you know, it was just a thing, and we just walked down to the Saenger and go up in the balcony and we had such a good time, you know, everybody you knew would be up there in the balcony, so it really didn't matter.  We would see some of our friends standing in the line at the white theater but we knew not to speak to them when they were in that line because we knew that they were passing.  &#13;
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Butler:	Passing for white.  There were some who were light enough to pass for white and I won’t…  They would go to the white theater.  So, and we would pass on our way to the Saenger we would sometimes pass the Crown and we would see these kids in the line over there but we it was an unwritten rule that we didn’t break that, you know, even though we were all in school together.&#13;
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Butler:	I think so.  Uh, huh.  But nobody knew that they were passing.  The people if they knew they didn’t say anything.  But ah, like I say, even when even when I had to go through that at the Welfare Department, it just really didn’t bother me because it was I figured that you know, I was going to achieve over and above whatever they threw at me and so you know I had that inner desire and inner feeling that you know whatever happened I was gonna withstand it because I was gonna I was gonna be above it.&#13;
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Jackson:	Uh, huh.&#13;
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Butler:	So, I just, I guess ah, when did I first begin to really, really feel bad about it, maybe during World War II.  That might’ve been when uh, I begin to have my first feelings about the differences and wanted to fight and be a part of a fight that would happen.&#13;
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Butler:	The form and the fighting came for me really rather late and it came through my husband.  We had moved back to Mobile from Boston.  He had gone to school at Boston University.  And we stayed on a while.  Then, because the family being here, we decided to come back to the South.  And uh, he was working for the Mobile Housing Board and he saw no future there.  &#13;
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Dear Mama,&#13;
Well, maybe I can write a few lines tonight without getting called out.  Calling home yesterday made me feel about 100% better as I was getting kind of blue.  I haven’t been paid yet but am expecting to sign the payroll one day this week.  I will be able to send you some then and will have a pretty good pay day.  I went to the Ala. &amp; Georgia Tech football game Sat. [Saturday] and had a good time.  This girl I met up here is really a swell girl and plenty good looking.  I have a date with her Wed. [Wednesday] nite if I can get out of camp and have enough money.  I had to stand guard duty last Wed. [Wednesday] nite but I didn’t do much but sleep.  The war news we here now all seems to be pretty good.  I am sending a little picture home of me and 2 fellows we had made Fri. nite.  One sleeps on each side of me and both are yankees. (OVER)&#13;
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3457TH ORD. AUTO. MAINT. CO.&#13;
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FREE&#13;
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Mobile, Alabama.&#13;
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__&#13;
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Dear Mama -&#13;
I hope this finds you feeling fine and the weather a lot better.  Yesterday I pulled a muscle loose in my back but the doctor fixed me up so I am kind of sore today.  I worked today but about all I do is sit around and check parts out.  The clouds are awful black this afternoon but I doubt if we get more than a sprinkle of rain.  I have been going to bed early for the last four nights so I think I will just stay in until about Sat. [Saturday] or Sunday night.  I spent more than I intended to on my trip so I am just about broke and payday isn’t until next week sometime.  Tell Norma and Janelle that I appreciated their letter and if I don’t feel too sore tomorrow night I will send them one back.&#13;
The Young Men’s Christian Associations · The National Catholic Community Service · The Salvation Army · The Young Women’s Christian Associations · The Jewish Welfare Board · The National Travelers Aid Association [Printed in blue on center-bottom of page]&#13;
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Well, I finally got my dog tags yesterday and am wearing them on the necklace Mr Gunter sent me.  I also see that they put me down as being Catholic on them.  Out of about every 100 people you meet out here only about half of them are from Arizona.  I have just finished eating supper and I am so full that I feel like I will explode.  We had sauerkraut and weiners, cabbage, boiled irish potatoes, carrots, bread and [Illegible] butter, iced tea and either cherry jello or ice cream.&#13;
We eat only the best of everything but I still can’t eat beets or liver and thank goodness we very seldom have it.  Mama, I am really proud of my fountain pen and all that have used it want to buy it but I wouldn’t sell it for any amount. &#13;
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There is an old guy here trying to talk to me that has been in the army for over 20 years and once served in the Russian Army.  He doesn’t do much of anything but they are just letting him get in enough time for a pension.  Mama, what ever happened to Jennie Dee, does she work or does anyone every see her?  Not that I care too much, as I have a sweet one out here, but I would just like to know.  Mama, I would like for you to meet this one out are as she is a real sweet girl of 25 and a brunette.  I like her a lot but as for staying in the west, well I’d rather be in Mississippi.  Well, I will close now and play a little ping pong before bedtime, so &#13;
Goodnight Lots &amp; lots of love &amp; kisses, Bill&#13;
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Mobile, Alabama.&#13;
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__&#13;
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Dear Mama -&#13;
I hope this finds you feeling fine and the weather a lot better.  Yesterday I pulled a muscle loose in my back but the doctor fixed me up so I am kind of sore today.  I worked today but about all I do is sit around and check parts out.  The clouds are awful black this afternoon but I doubt if we get more than a sprinkle of rain.  I have been going to bed early for the last four nights so I think I will just stay in until about Sat. [Saturday] or Sunday night.  I spent more than I intended to on my trip so I am just about broke and payday isn’t until next week sometime.  Tell Norma and Janelle that I appreciated their letter and if I don’t feel too sore tomorrow night I will send them one back.&#13;
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The Young Men’s Christian Associations · The National Catholic Community Service · The Salvation Army · The Young Women’s Christian Associations · The Jewish Welfare Board · The National Travelers Aid Association [Printed in blue on center-bottom of page]&#13;
__&#13;
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There is an old guy here trying to talk to me that has been in the army for over 20 years and once served in the Russian Army.  He doesn’t do much of anything but they are just letting him get in enough time for a pension.  Mama, what ever happened to Jennie Dee, does she work or does anyone every see her?  Not that I care too much, as I have a sweet one out here, but I would just like to know.  Mama, I would like for you to meet this one out are as she is a real sweet girl of 25 and a brunette.  I like her a lot but as for staying in the west, well I’d rather be in Mississippi.  Well, I will close now and play a little ping pong before bedtime, so &#13;
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Goodnight Lots &amp; lots of love &amp; kisses, Bill&#13;
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              <text>P.F.C. R.O. SULLIVAN&#13;
3457TH ORD. A. M. CO.&#13;
PHOENIX, ARIZONA&#13;
2 PHOENIX ARIZ. MAY 31 1943 1130 AM [Stamped in black on top-center of envelope]&#13;
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2152 Senator St.&#13;
Mobile, Alabama&#13;
__&#13;
5-30-43&#13;
Dear Mama –&#13;
Just a few lines tonight to let you know that I am feeling fine and hope you and everyone is the same.  I just came off guard last night and have been sleeping nearly all day.  It is about all that I can do to find time to write as we are all as busy as we can be packing up.  About 20 of the fellows are leaving tomorrow to get things ready for us when we come down.  Well, my new address will be the same except I will be in Camp Lockett, California.  This camp is up in the mountains on the Mexican border sixty miles south of San Diego.  I am real anxious to go, for one thing they sleep under blankets nearly all summer.  We won’t be close to any town except El Centro, Calif. And that is about forty miles.  You get passes on weekends and trucks to take you to different places and bring you back Sunday night.  On these trips you can go over into Mexicali and really have a good time.  &#13;
(OVER).&#13;
About once a month or twice you can go up to L.A. &amp; Hollywood for three days at a time.  Another good thing is that when I get a furlough I can take the train right in the camp and go all the way to New Orleans.  Some of my buddies have been down there for about three months and wouldn’t move if they had a chance.  If things work out alright I’ll probably get my furlough next month.  I had a physical exam. Last week and I am in perfect health and weigh 180.  The doctor told me that I would get my teeth all fixed down there as that is our headquarters and they have their own hospital.  When I come home I will really have some tales to tell you of some of the places and things that I have seen.  You might not be able to read this as I am writing it on my knee.  Well, I will close until tomorrow and shave &amp; go to bed.  &#13;
Goodnight  &#13;
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Keep writing me in Phoenix until I tell you.&#13;
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__&#13;
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Dear Mama –&#13;
Just a few lines tonight to let you know that I am feeling fine and hope you and everyone is the same.  I just came off guard last night and have been sleeping nearly all day.  It is about all that I can do to find time to write as we are all as busy as we can be packing up.  About 20 of the fellows are leaving tomorrow to get things ready for us when we come down.  Well, my new address will be the same except I will be in Camp Lockett, California.  This camp is up in the mountains on the Mexican border sixty miles south of San Diego.  I am real anxious to go, for one thing they sleep under blankets nearly all summer.  We won’t be close to any town except El Centro, Calif. And that is about forty miles.  You get passes on weekends and trucks to take you to different places and bring you back Sunday night.  On these trips you can go over into Mexicali and really have a good time.  &#13;
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Goodnight  &#13;
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